No body has used Flex fuel in the Durango yet???
The manual says you can run 87 octane on the 3.6L however I have the 5.7L and it requires 89 octane or higher.
The manual says you can run 87 octane on the 3.6L however I have the 5.7L and it requires 89 octane or higher.
That is a misconception. The production of E85 is not creating many jobs. Those that are created are heavily funded by the government.However, if all cars would run this and start to bring more jobs to the US, i'm down for it.
Oh I agree with ya on that.That is a misconception. The production of E85 is not creating many jobs. Those that are created are heavily funded by the government.
The idea of using our food source to create fuel is crazy. The cost of corn is driven up because it is being burned. So the cost of everything produced from it goes up as well. Even the cost of meat increases because beef cattle are fed corn.
Besides, the posts here confirm that E85 isn't as afficient as gasolene. So why would you want to burn more fuel for the same results? Seems to me in the long run gas is still the best option.
Well I'm not so sure about the "long" run. I think the gasoline engine is already at the beginning of the end of it's life. Efficiencies will continue to rise to prolong its life, but the writing is on the wall. Hybrids, electric vehicles, and other options are starting to take hold of permanent market share. The gas engine may always have some uses, but not for the daily driver. Sadly I think this may be the last V8 engine I ever own (with that delicious V8 rumble... Seems to me in the long run gas is still the best option.
I don't believe there would be as many hybrids on the road today if it wasn't for the government subsidies a.k.a. tax credits. The market place works and gives consumers what they want. If car buyers wanted 100mpg cars we would have them by now. Take the smart42 and the mini cooper. Both are very efficient vehicles. But they have lackluster sales. No matter how bad politicians want us to be like european countries and drive juice box cars, it just isn't happening. Government regulation and control of the auto and gas industry is the only way it will happen on a mass scale. Americans still want their muscle cars.Well I'm not so sure about the "long" run. I think the gasoline engine is already at the beginning of the end of it's life. Efficiencies will continue to rise to prolong its life, but the writing is on the wall. Hybrids, electric vehicles, and other options are starting to take hold of permanent market share. The gas engine may always have some uses, but not for the daily driver. Sadly I think this may be the last V8 engine I ever own (with that delicious V8 rumble).
I agree that we will still want our muscle cars, but that's more a hobby now. You just don't have muscle cars prowling the streets the way you did in the 50s-70s. Initially rebates were definitly an incentive to help create the hybrid market. But the rebates are phasing out. Toyota expects to sell enough hybrids to create an entire hybrid brand (like Lexus and Scion, it will be called Prius) and Toyotas no longer have any rebates. Politicians may have helped start all this, but manufacturers clearly see the trend and the profits. High end manufacturers, including even Porsche, are now offering hybrid vehicles. No amount of rebate is creating sales of 100K+ vehicles. Yes we still like big, powerful cars (not Smart's or MC's) and so manufacturers are now looking to provide that size and power with the better gas mileage we also need and want on a hybrid platform.I don't believe there would be as many hybrids on the road today if it wasn't for the government subsidies a.k.a. tax credits. The market place works and gives consumers what they want. If car buyers wanted 100mpg cars we would have them by now. Take the smart42 and the mini cooper. Both are very efficient vehicles. But they have lackluster sales. No matter how bad politicians want us to be like european countries and drive juice box cars, it just isn't happening. Government regulation and control of the auto and gas industry is the only way it will happen on a mass scale. Americans still want their muscle cars.
That does seem low, are you using e85 or gasoline? If gas what octane?not to get off topic, but what sort of MPG are you all getting with the HEMI. Mines only got 300 miles on it and getting 10MPG, eek. I didnt think it would be that bad, but figured its new.
That's the best way. I've got a spreadsheet that I've used since day one to track my Challenger mileage. You'll find that gas with the ethanol in it will rob you of 1 to 2 mpg. Also city driving with these hemi's are a real mileage killer. Does not take too many city miles to really bring your average down. I've also found out that the average mpg display in my Ram is off by at least 1 mile, tells me I get more than by doing the math.Actually its 89 oct 10% methanol and I guess its city driving, more like suburbia. But definetly a lot of stop and go in 35 MPH traffic. Living in Chicago, city driving to me is more of stop / go at 25 mph and sitting in non moving traffic. Basically very condensed.
So, I also got my 10 MPG from the compute that displays your Avg MPG based on the miles put on the car. So not sure how accurate it is. I may need to fill her up and track the mileage and then see how many gallons I need to fill her up again. Thats probably more accurate.
In fact, I think Im gonna do that.![]()